Tuesday, September 29, 2015

Some Observations

Every so often I write a post that makes no attempt at organization or cohesion. Thought it was about time for one of those.

  • At one point Jake tells Cohn that Brett's "one true love died in the war". This is conceivable given that a large portion of her generation was lost to WWI and that Brett must have known some of these young men during her time as a nurse. However, I happened to read this line just after glancing at a quote of Brett's employing the exact same phrase: "Jake, you're my one true love", which could afford a different interpretation of Jake's claim. Given that Brett's chances of being with Jake romantically died with his war injury, would it be too much of a stretch to suggest that Jake might be referring to himself when he speaks of Brett's dead lover? (darn it, Mr. Mitchell! I promise I wrote this before you mentioned it in class.) If this is the case, it seriously takes Jake's reliability as a narrator into question. If he could lie to Cohn in this believable but slightly self-flattering/pragmatic way (self flattering because it suggests that he is actually Brett's true love, and pragmatic in that it's meant to discourage Cohn from pursuing her) about Brett's past, he could be lying to us about his relationships with the aficionados or with Brett; about how Bill's little joke about impotency makes him feel-- who knows. Although he probably respects his reader more than he respects Cohn; don't know if that would make a difference in his honesty.
  • Poor Cohn. Poor, poor Cohn. My classmates don't seem to agree with me, but I think that there is absolutely nothing wrong with Robert Cohn. I'm familiar with the dynamic going on between Cohn and the other's in the story: the group of friends+awkward outsider dynamic. And I don't like it. There's something about being in a group of people like you that makes a small seed of annoyance directed at someone who's socially unusual echo around, feed off the other members of your group and amplify into an unrelenting and unjustified cacophony of ridicule--even hatred. Basically, I think Cohn is being bullied. And it probably has something to do with the fact that he's a Jew, which makes it even worse. I'll grant you that Cohn's a little odd sometimes, and maybe a little too chivalrous, but in my opinion it's not an offensive chivalry, and he's certainly well meaning. For one thing, he's the only one who reacted reasonably to the bullfighting (a disgusting and unforgivable tradition). His discomfort with that alone made me like him more than the other characters, no matter how much more clever they are.
  • There's this section at the end of book II in which Jake goes into all sorts of detail about the experiences of the older, less well-liked matador, Belmonte (perhaps he's only less well liked because he's more famous, but he's still less well liked). Apparently Belmonte had intended to have a good afternoon, but now everything hurts because he's sick. It's an odd, almost Clarissa-Septimus type moment, in that Jake seems to have this magically personal connection to this guy's experiences, despite not knowing him well at all. And it's only made weirder by Hemingway's strict refusal to look beneath the surface of any other situation or character (I think we've seen more of this guy's thoughts than we've seen of Jake's!), and by the fact that his character is hardly relevant to the rest of the story at all. I suppose it illustrates Jake's aficion that he's so in tune with the fighters, but it's a weird little passage. 
  • Also, this is completely unproductive (and to you I'm sure uninteresting), but 2 summers ago I took a trip that included nights in Paris, Biarritz, Madrid, San Sebastian and a little Basque town near San Sebastian called Oartzan or something like that, so the descriptions in this book are really bringing back memories (although Madrid was not all that hot). 

4 comments:

  1. Interesting thoughts. We've had several discussions on Jake's reliability as a narrator but I still think he's trustworthy. Of course he's opinionated, all narrators are, but I don't see much of a point in him flat-out lying. However, what we know about Jake does suggest that he would allude to some things without stating them and assume that we know what he's talking about, like him being Brett's one true love. The ending of the book goes back to how they could've been together but it's not possible, a recurring theme in the book.
    I also feel bad for Cohn sometimes. My biggest problem with him is that he's so whiny about it. He needs to learn to stand up for himself without punching someone else and then crying about it. He should just find new friends.
    I like how you compare Jake and Belmonte to Clarissa and Septimus. I didn't think about it that way, but it makes sense.

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  2. The passage about the older matadors felt like a break from the drinking and emotional turmoil that seems to be happening throughout most of the novel, but this also makes it seem weird to go into since it doesn't involve drinking and relationships. As you pointed out it does demonstrate Jake's passion for bull-fighting, and maybe the description of Belmonte being desired by the crowd for what he doesn't have anymore has some sort of role. I also feel bad for Robert Cohn, as he isn't essentially doing anything wrong with having his chivalrous literary ideals. The people around him seem much more of a problem than he is. Worryingly, I think the main reason for my sympathizing with him is that I would be as out of tune with his peers as he is if I were in his situation...

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  3. Jake's reliability troubled me a bit throughout the book as well. I managed to suspend that trepidation most of the time, but I had my moments of wondering if he was really telling us the truth, or at least the whole truth. He's a sympathetic character, in my opinion, sure. But he's also the one setting himself up that way, and we don't know whether he's trying to or not. I certainly hope he has more respect for us than Cohn.

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  4. I'm not sure the possibility of Jake "lying" to Cohn when he refers to Brett's "true love" necessarily calls his general narrative reliability into question. He's clear to us that he's trying to put Cohn off of Brett, and he's deliberately talking about her in a dismissive and negative way (while also flaunting his greater familiarity with her). There's a context for why he might be misleading (or indirect with reference to himself--if it *is* him he's talking about, there'd be a lot of uncomfortable explaining to do!).

    For me, questions of Jake's reliability have less to do with the prospect of him blatantly lying and more to do with his own, maybe not fully conscious, biases and how these might be reflected in the narrative. He has trouble being anything like objective with Cohn, for example, and we come to see that there's good reason for that.

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